[Hippo-cms7-user] Detecting the default channel manager rest uri?

Ard Schrijvers a.schrijvers at onehippo.com
Wed Sep 12 23:14:44 CEST 2012

Op 12 sep. 2012 16:12 schreef "Woonsan Ko" <w.ko at onehippo.com> het volgende:
> On 9/12/12 5:16 AM, Ard Schrijvers wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Bart van der Schans
>> <b.vanderschans at onehippo.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Frank van Lankvelt
>>> <f.vanlankvelt at onehippo.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Woonsan Ko <w.ko at onehippo.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I've experienced the error, 'java.net.ConnectException:
>>>>> invoking' when I started server
on a
>>>>> different port than 8080. The trouble shooting was well documented
>>>>> -
>>>>> It may depend on preferences, but I think it would be better if the
>>>>> server name and port number are automatically detected somehow, with
>>>>> only the remaining path in the configuration by default.
>>>>> It's not just for convenience in development, but also I guess it
>>>>> serve multi-domain sites.
>>>> I would really like this; the plugin currently forces one to specify
>>>> the uri, but it should be able to determine most of these by itself.
>>>> The only exception is the context-path of the hst (though we can
>>>> default to 'site' if not specified) and the mount-point of the cms
>>>> rest service (again, we can easily default to '_cmsrest').
>>>> Of course, there would be a problem when site and cms are running in
>>>> different containers *and* one wants to run multiple instances of both
>>>> applications on the same machine.  At that point, environment-specific
>>>> configuration is needed, e.g. in a system property.  (note that the
>>>> system property could also just point to the respective environment,
>>>> i.e. -Dhippo.environment='development' or
>>>> -Dhippo.environment='testing'; the plugin-specific configuration could
>>>> then still be in the repository)
>>> Why a system property? We already store this information in the
>>> "hst:channelmanagerhostgroup" property on the hst:hosts.
>>> I'm not sure if autodetection will really work in the end. There are
>>> too many deployment scenarios in combination with reverse proxy
>>> settings.
>> That is also what I fear. It is very complex to use autodetection.
>> AFAIK, there is no way from the application for example whether the
>> end user sees the context path or not.
> By the way, I forgot the classname, but I saw a cms channel manager class
invoking the rest service in the *server-side* by using CXF client code
libraries, which means it doesn't need to detect the client-side domain
name at all. Mostly it works with its localhost.
> So, autodetection seems really possible.

The server side rest calls indeed should be possible, but afaik this is
already automatic: it is always on and the same port as cms.
However, there is also the client side rest calls between cms and side.
These are the calls including _rp. These need to go over the host of the

Either way, perhaps you have found some possible improvement. I am not yet
sure we can really get away with auto detect. Perhaps we can improve it. I
hope to have some time to dive into it as well

Regards ard and thanks for your insights

> Regards,
> Woonsan
>> We could make it in the 7.8 a bit easier now the channels are not
>> loaded through java calls but rest calls: We could get rid of the
>> hst:channelmanagerhostgroup property. The hst:cmslocation on the
>> hst:virtualhostgroup group would still be needed, but this has the
>> advantage that the very same hst config can be used on dev, test, acct
>> and prod since the domain specific property
>> hst:channelmanagerhostgroup on the shared hst:hosts node could be
>> removed
>> Ard
>>> Bart
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